เข้าลวดราชินี ไม้เล็กหน่อย
   ไม้ก่อนเข้าลวด ไม้ส่วนใหย่(พิมพ์ยอหยิงไม่ได้)ผมจะตัดทดให้มีรายละเอียดเพิ่มขึ้นก่อน จะนำมาเข้าลวด

โดย: เจ้าบ้าน [18 ต.ค. 51 10:10] ( IP A:124.120.200.230 X: )
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ความคิดเห็นที่ 1
   ไม้ต้นนี้ตำแหน่งกิ่งดี แค่จัดชั้น ลอความแข็งของกิ่งโดยการดัดให้กิ่งดคหน่อยจะดนิ่มขึ้น การดัดให้คดก็ดนิ้วชี้ผมจะดึงแต่นิ้วโป้งดัน อีกมือจับยอดของกิ่งที่ดัดไว้ (อย่าลืมว่าลวดต้องมีความแข็งพอจะบังคับ)

โดย: เจ้าบ้าน [18 ต.ค. 51 10:12] ( IP A:124.120.200.230 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 2
   ตัดตอนมาที่ยอดที่ดแข็ง ก็วัดลวดให้ยาวกว่ากิ่งประมาน(นอเนรพิมพ์ไม่ได้) 1 เท่าครึ่ง ในรปที่1 บิดยอด(ดัด)เอากิ่งย่อยด้านหลังมาไว้ด้านหน้า เพื่อตั้งชั้นต่อไปในอนาคต ในรป2-3 และเตรียมดัดและดึงกิ่งที่ดูแข็งมากในรป4

โดย: เจ้าบ้าน [18 ต.ค. 51 10:17] ( IP A:124.120.200.230 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 3
   ทั้งเข้าลวด และเพื่อลวดไว้ดึงลง(กิ่งแข็งมาก ใช้ลวดใหย่กิ่งจะช้ำมากเพราะไม้ยังเล็ก) เกี่ยวปากกระถาง

โดย: เจ้าบ้าน [18 ต.ค. 51 10:19] ( IP A:124.120.200.230 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 4
   ตัดทดกิ่งนี้ให้เท่ากิ่งอื่นๆเพราะยาวไปมาก รอแตกก็เข้าลวดช่วยในอนาคต

โดย: เจ้าบ้าน [18 ต.ค. 51 10:21] ( IP A:124.120.200.230 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 5
   ตัดตอนมาตอนเสร็จเลย ด้านบน จัดระเบียบช่องว่างให้ดสมดุลย์ บิดกิ่งให้คดลอความกระด้าง แต่ต้องกิ่งต้องหลบกันด้วย

โดย: เจ้าบ้าน [18 ต.ค. 51 10:23] ( IP A:124.120.200.230 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 6
   รป1 ด้านหน้า รป2 ด้านหลัง
รป3 ด้านขวา รป4 ด้านซ้าย
การดัดกิ่งควรพยามดทุกด้าน แต่เอาด้านหน้าให้สมบรน์ที่สุด
เพื่อนสมาชิก ก็ค่อยๆลองทำดูนะครับ ไม้ที่สวยน้อยก็ทำให้สวยมากขึ้นได้ ดวยการดัด ตัดแต่ง นี่แหละครับ
กำลังจะทำภาพเคลื่อนไหว เป็นdvd ในอนาคตอันใกล้

โดย: เจ้าบ้าน [18 ต.ค. 51 10:27] ( IP A:124.120.200.230 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 7
   ลืมเอารปไม้ทรงตกกระถาง ช่วงด้านล่างมาให้ดู ทั้งต้นยังไม่เสร็จดี คงอีก 1-2 ปี ทำมา 2 ปีแล้ว (จากกิ่งตอน) ดการวางชั้นต้องให้ได้สัดส่วน (ช่องว่างห่างพอๆกัน ไม่มากและแคบไป)อย่ที่การเลือกกิ่งมาทำตอนแรก รายละเอียดกิ่งมาตัดทดเอา ไม่ใช่ใช้แต่ยาแตกตาอย่างเดียว เพราะมันเลือกตำแหน่งที่แตกง่ามไม่ได้ดังใจ เหมือนตัดเหนือตาที่ต้องการให้แตก ค่อยๆลองทำไปครับ

โดย: เจ้าบ้าน [18 ต.ค. 51 10:31] ( IP A:124.120.200.230 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 8
   พี่ทรงกลดครับ มารอชมราชินี ต้นของคุณศรีราชาฯ ตอนนี้ทำไปถึงไหนแล้วครับ อยากชมจัง
โดย: ป๊อบ233 [18 ต.ค. 51 10:54] ( IP A:58.136.206.173 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 9
   สงสัยต้องไปหาพี่ทรงกลดบ่อยๆแล้ว อิอิ
เดี๋ยวว่างๆขออณุญาติไปเรียนรู้วิชานะครับพี่ทรงกลด
โดย: สยาม1814 [18 ต.ค. 51 11:50] ( IP A:115.67.97.22 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 10
   ถึงคุณป๊อป จะพยายาม แต่ถ้าทำแล้วยังไม่เสร็จดีก็ยังไม่อยากโชว์ คาดว่าเอาแบบเร็วๆหน่อยก็ 2- 6 เดือน เสร็จเลย 2 ปี(รวมทำราก)
โดย: เจ้าบ้าน [18 ต.ค. 51 12:27] ( IP A:124.120.200.230 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 11
   ทำทำได้แต่จินตนาการที่จะทำให้เป็นรูปทรงมันคิดไม่คอ่ยออกครับอยากเรียนรู้จริงๆพอมีตำราไหมครับ
โดย: นิพนธ์1601-B [18 ต.ค. 51 13:49] ( IP A:202.183.221.66 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 12
   แนะมำให้ดูรูปจากเว็ปพวกบอนไซ ทั้งในและต่างปท. ที่สำคัญต้องกล้าเข้าลวดก่อนทั้งกิ่งใหญ่และเล็ก หัดโยกเปลี่ยนตำแหน่งกิ่ง ทั้งบิดกิ่งรอบๆดู กิ่งชวนชมอ่อนเนื้อเยื่อเหนียว สมามารถบิดไดกว่า 90-180 องศาเลยครับ แต่ไม่เนื้อแข็งนั้น บิดมากหน่อยกิ่งฉีก เนื้อเยื่อชำสุดท้ายกิ่งนั้นแห้งตาย ชวนชมจึงเป็นไม้ที่ทำได้ง่าย ในการแก้ทรง
โดย: เจ้าบ้าน [18 ต.ค. 51 14:10] ( IP A:124.120.200.230 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 15
   ผมเพิ่งจะหัดทำครับอยากขอคำแนะนำด้วยครับ...กิ่งจะแน่นมากครับและงอกจากกิ่งแขนงไม่ใช่กิ่งเมนเหมือนของคุณทรงกลดครับ เลยตัดออกจนโปร่งครับ

โดย: พ่อน้องกานต์710-B [25 ต.ค. 51 13:19] ( IP A:125.24.13.247 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 16
   จับดัดเป็นชั้นครับ ดึงลงมาเป็นชั้นล่าง ชึ้นที่ สองดึงขึ้นครับ

โดย: พ่อน้องกานต์710-B [25 ต.ค. 51 13:22] ( IP A:125.24.13.247 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 17
   หลังทำการดัดแล้วพบว่ากิ่งชั้นที่สองค่อนข้างจะยาวกว่าชั้นล่าง ควรตัดออกให้สั้นไม่ทราบถูกไหมครับ

โดย: พ่อน้องกานต์710-B [25 ต.ค. 51 13:25] ( IP A:125.24.13.247 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 18
   ภาพด้านบนครับ

โดย: พ่อน้องกานต์710-B [25 ต.ค. 51 13:27] ( IP A:125.24.13.247 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 19
   ต้นนี้หัดตัดทดดูครับ หลังจากเก็บรายละเอียดปุ่มปมที่ยื่นออกมาครับ

โดย: พ่อน้องกานต์710-B [25 ต.ค. 51 13:29] ( IP A:125.24.13.247 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 20
   ถึงพ่อน้องกานต์710-B การกล้าเข้าลวดไม้ถือเป็นการเริ่มต้นที่ดีครับ คราวนี้มาว่ากันที่ทรงที่จะทำ อันนี้ต้องหาประสบการณ์ในการมองไม้ เข้าไปห้องบอนไซบ่อยๆ จากนั้นเริ่มเลียนแบบ ไม้ต้นที่จะเข้าลวดจะทำทรงอะไร กิ่งเมนมีไหม กิ่งที่มีมากไป ยาวไปต้องตัดออกบ้าง ใช้เวลารอคอยการแตกใหม่ของกิ่ง อาจจะ2-3เดือน ถึง มากกว่านั้น ประสบการณ์ตรงดีที่สุด ตัดทดหลายๆต้น หลายๆแบบ(คิดแบบให้ออกในหัวก่อน) ไม่ลองผิดลองถูก ก็ไม่สนุก(หรือไม่เก่งในอนาคต) ผมว่าไม้ที่เริ่มทำมันใหญ่ไปหน่อย ใช้เวลาการแตกนานกว่าจะได้ขนาดที่ต้องการเพื่อตัดทดต่อหรือเข้าลวด ลองทำกับต้นที่เล็กกว่านี้ดีกว่าครับ พวกกิ่งตอนต่างๆ ก็ได้ (ดีด้วย)
โดย: เจ้าบ้าน [25 ต.ค. 51 22:23] ( IP A:124.120.212.151 X: )
ความคิดเห็นที่ 21
   ขอบคุณท่านเจ้าบ้านมากครับที่ให้คำแนะนำที่เป็นประโยชน์สำหรับมือให่ม่
โดย: พ่อน้องกานต์710-B [28 ต.ค. 51 4:34] ( IP A:125.24.36.237 X: )
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